This format was implemented by the Crashed in a road accident in Le Mans 1959 after scrutineering but before the race itself. => Peter Jopp (05/1961) {registered PJ 3} => Harry Stiller, USA {registered ARY 10, re-painted silver} => Fred Lyons (1964) {registered 8262RF} => Patrick Kelly/Wilts (06/11/1967) => William Evans (03/07/1970) => Peter Ecury (1980) {restored and re-painted as green with yellow stripes} => Hugo Du Toy Van Hees (1982) => Henk Koel (1991) => Steve Hill (05/2001) => Peter Rutt (end 2009). Section B Plate BB Plate Reference No. The 1962 Seven Project on BAT (https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-lotus-seven-4/) has raised a discussion about "official" vs repro or even counterfeit ID plates. Wrecked and rebodied with chassis 1019P. J. Lotus specs based on year, make and model. so that if one ever got used for something counterfeit I'd have the original basis. We have looked at Stefans great site, Armstrong is mentioned there, but no chassis nr. 45/8190. If you would like to keep this website up and running, please consider contributing: https://lotuselan.net/w/index.php?title=Intro_-_Vehicle_Chassis_Numbers_and_Part_Numbers&oldid=2159. Lotus Cars by Numbers Note: Cars up to and including the Eleven are referred to as Mark, thereafter Type. Community Forum Software by IP.Board, This is not recommended for shared computers. I know Elites and Elans of the same era had plates similar to mine above, and some had plates like this - so my suspicion is that they were likely both used on Sevens, as well. => Jorge Fausto Figueiredo (1968) => Waldemar Silva (1969~1970) => => Alberto, I => Massimo Pedrazzi, I (early 1980s) => Franco Pedrazzi, I (~2013), => Mike Brookes => => ?, Japan (~2005). Crashed heavily in Le Mans 1960 by Sieff. The#B1431 frame above is from a 1962- so likely earlier than 62? WebCHASSIS; Supplied by Spydersport Advanced replacement chassis, finished in red stove enamel to protect against corrosion, these chassis have a lot more torsional rigidity than Web7101 01 0035 F 7103 05 0299 G 7102 03 0031 H 7112 29 0050 J - I am aware of only 25 Federal FHC Sprints, making them the rarest variant 7104 07 0164 K Last Unit Numbers: (only frame number given) GB, Nick Moore Racing, US. Makes sense - but does anyone know if true? Stu. Fitted with a special body designed by the first owner but ordered at Lotus Engineering. => Hansuli Buechi, CH =>=> Johannes Ditz (~2005). => Serge Pozzoli, F / Museum of the Geyier => Count Zanoli => Museum de Geurier =>=> Gerard Gombert (~2012) {poor state => to be scapped}. ?GB, Geoff Oliver ?, P. Jackson, J. Hasler ? Incidentally, not all Lotus chassis numbers carry an "R", only the Team Lotus cars from type 25 to 95T (?) You can find our related policies HERE. Crashed at Silverstone 1968 during Player's Trophy race, rebuit with 47/GT/77. The first picture is circa 2008, I don't know that I have an earlier picture. By It is a left-hand drive car. The data compiled with a huge help of Johannes Ditz, who's help is very much appreciated. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. One of the two Angolan cars. If you want to use this information, please contact Martin Krejci. It is fully disclosed. Vandervell road car, then owned and raced over years by Nick Atkins. => Tony Kitchener => Victor Walker (1981) => Simon Hadfield (1982). Ex-Team Lotus car. There may have been a company in between, too. This information is gathered from various sources. 1973 Victorian Sportscar Champion with David Piele. This number is repeated on the chassis lower flange, behind the right front suspension tower, viewable from within the right hand front wheel-arch. 1. Separate serial number sequences are used for the following groups of chassis market (character 12): Lotus parts by VIN number. - added only because resolution is likely better than the earlier photo found on the wayback machine. At least 11 were built in 47F specification. => Hermann Brgi (1969) =>=> Paul Fitzwarryne. Renumber as 1006P after the original chassis was retutned to Lotus by Warner as it did not handle well (this was secret at the time). Driven by Pius Zund. I've only heard from one source the suggestion that he had two, MOTORSPORT NETWORK 2022. Lotus car history before getting a car loan or credit. Indented parts in the 'DESCRIPTION' column are incorporated in the preceding - not indented - part. I'll reach out to John Watson once I have more info, am not with the car at the moment so can't investigate further myself yet. Legally you have all the elements to make a fair sale as the value it sells for will reflect the prevailing views of authenticity. The second is after a little light cleanup (light because any more effort and only the stamping will be left!) The 1962 frame has lots of aspects that must have been specified by the same engineers that did my 1959 and looks genuine to me, but of course it has all the series 2 differences to account for steering location and rear suspension differences. Portugiese delivery C.A.A., Lisbon, later Angola? Written off at Monza 1959. Pacific Standard Time: Mon - 6:00am - 4:00pm. Edited by David Beard, 11 February 2011 - 18:15. Restored by S.Hadfield in the 1990ies, in Japan. Later converted to Lotus 46. From simple sevens:http://www.simplesevens.org/anglocanadian/angloParts.htm. probably better to identify a real 7 by noting details on the spaceframe and where the steering rack attaches. ), the practice changed and the rest of the S2s and then S3s had the number stamped directly in the frame beside the brake/clutch master cylinder mount. For instance, if someone wants to Wed - 6:00am - 4:00pm. Whether your Lotus is destined for the racetrack or the open road, you can count on Lotus Parts Online to provide the absolute highest Esprit S1 Chassis Numbers, Build Dates, Colors, and Engine Numbers - Misc including parts cross references - The Lotus Forums - Official Lotus Community Partner By Tony K, October 21, 2010 in Misc including parts cross references Share Followers 1 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) 0 CC7780615086 5 Silver 26/07/1978 This number 34 car was built in January of 1966 for customer, Mr. Peter Block. It should not be confused with the actual vehicle serial number (V.I.N.) WebThe point of this article is to assist those contemplating the purchase of one of the original cars. Edited by Ralf Pickel, 21 November 2011 - 09:34. buy a car, it is possible to check the VIN number one the online database to ensure that the car was not stolen, damaged or illegally modified. Post some pictures of the car and we may be able to help with ID, but the best way to be certain is to reach out to John Watson with the details of the car that you know. => Melcher? We have thousands of listings and a variety of research tools to help you find the perfect car That wondering notwithstanding, I have a tendency to post/publish slightly altered pictures (cropped, zoomed, etc.) They may be in conversation with the seller, but that is not known publicly. When buying an old Lotus Seven some of the more important points to look out for are: (1.) I'll check some of the resource books I have over the weekend. The car has been titled and plated 487VNY in New Jersey since 1986 as a 1965 Lotus with chassis number SB2991. Every buyer must check Lotus car history before getting a car loan or credit. Road cars are highlighted in red, significant events are highlighted in blue. It does appear that some previous owner felt the need to add some reinforcing tubes in the lower engine compartment and up at the front suspension area ( around the radiator) that I think are not original series 2 practice but a good idea ( the series 1 had a stressed aluminium floor pan all the way from the very back, up to around the engine so very different). In 2006 still with Frank Arciero. It doesn't need to be said here of all places, I know, but neither a plate nornumbers, nor age, nor manufacturer have anyimpact on the potential fun of the Seven - this isn't a thread about value in any sense. Renumbered as 1014P, delivered to Merle Roberson. Try Duncan Rabagliati?http://www.historicl/Rabagliati.htm(mind you, he is usually very busy). The VIN also allows a user to get a build sheet of Please check Years of paint and crud may make this hard to read - a lead rubbing may reveal it in that case, below is a picture of mine that revealed most, a second effort after cleaning confirmed the rest matched my records. I did not notice an aluminium driveshaft tunnel ( which is structural in a 7) but was not really looking for it and the rear aluminium bodywork is missing but can be fabricated from 3003T16 ( ask me how I know). The car was later raced as later as Harrison Special-289 Ford. No speculation, the DVLA is fine with direct OE replacement chassis (personally know of two that's had the numbers put on the registration document), the only case i know of that someone has tried to change a chassis that was not OE was a customer's TVR, it took TVR going bankrupt for the DVLA to accept the OE Chassis was Please verify any information in question with a sales representative. FRAME # This is the number given by the sub-contractor who made the mild steel chassis frame. It is to be found stamped, either directly onto the mild steel frame, or onto a small mild steel plate welded onto the frame, in varying places depending upon the age of the car. Note this is a different number than the chassis number or VIN, and was frequently (always?) Crashed, rebuilt with 47/GT/79. If a part is applicable to all models or versions, the quantity is listed in the column 'ALL', but if a part is particular to a model or version then the quantity will be listed in the column of the models and the version indicated thus ' ' in the respective column. => Craig Hill/Chip Comstock Racing, CDN (1965) => => Lynn Ball, CDN. Under ownership of Rene Vonaesch it became a road car. Many racing types had appendages to indicate different uses, they are not all listed. This online service allows a user to check the validity of the car and get detailed information on almost any VIN number, search Edited by Ralf Pickel, 21 November 2011 - 08:48. Do you have a specific car in mind? How is this possible? From the unit number I have from the chassis plate, I would expect it to be an S4, but I read that very few Lotus ones were produced before Caterham stepped-in. => Los Amigos/Gerard Crombac (1959) {destroyed by fire in Le Mans 1959}. Any kind of reproduction, in whole or in part is expressly forbidden without the consent of the author. CHASSIS, BODY or ENGINE Nos.) A036 M 6103. So, that would place the Arch Motors start with the chassis later - my 65 also has a B. I understand your point about preserving some identifying information - on the flip side, in this day and age, I've wondered if full transparency for all to see doesn't provide as much protection (why risk a counterfeit of something that is publicly documented?). Universal Radiator used the letter 'B' (possibly followed by an 'L' if the chassis was left hand drive) with four numerals for the chassis number. Just want to chime in with my own question. This Lotus Seven is an interesting but confusing example, in that the numbers are difficult to put together for verification. Spaceframe Chassis: Elan. As absolute facts can often be hard to establish with Lotus, I'd like this to be a thread to share not just what is "known" but also what is speculated, rumor, and even wives tale. Will keep you posted. I've collected a few numbers over the years. Fax. Destroyed in Snetterton 1962. => ?, CDN => David Whiteside (about 1983) => => Chris Palmaz (about 2000), => Ben Moore (10/1965) => Thomas Motors (1966) => => Bianco Rosso Museum, => Bob Waters (1966) => Peter Denty (early 1970s) => ? Originally bought by Harrison for Lloyd Ruby then after one test sold to Anson Johnson in a damaged state. Several type numbers are shared between production and F1 cars. Supply Part No. This letter/number combination was normally stamped on the angular steel bracket that held the front mounting of the master cylinder bracket. Section M Plate MK Plate Reference No. Andrew. Phil, you need to contact DVLA and get it corrected. There were two factory approved constructors of the mild steel Series 2 and 3 chassis, Arch Motors, and Universal Radiator. Probably only a later Arch location, I have heard chassis numbers are stamped on the wiper motor mount, as well as a rear shock mount. Road Registration Number and Logbook, (4.) I doubt anyone would try to stamp a plate already attached to a 7 given how thin the aluminium is on the cowling. The dual Weber set-up is there but looks pretty old and needs cleaning/ ? will be indicated in full in the 'CHANGE POINT' column. Great idea, and although I have no knowledge to share, I want to plant a seed that this thread could form the basis for an addition to theArticles section of the forum. ISO institute. 9. Later fitted with Chevrolet V8. WebLooking for a Lotus for sale within 50 miles of Centralia, WA ? US, road legal, several repairs, now (~2005) restored, Brian Hart engine. => Peter T. Ross => ? Several type numbers are shared between production and F1 cars. The circumstance is very much like my 1959 series 1 Lotus #475 was in 6-7 years ago. => => Morris Kindig, USA => => Sanehiro Nozaki, J (~1998~2005), => Alex Seldon, GB (1979) => Jeffrey Wakelin, USA (1981) => => ?, B (2002), => Leroy Melcher (1965) => Bill Kirtley (1966), => Randy Hilton / Hilton Racing (1964) => Bob McLean (1966) => Jake Rempel (1969). The only other person that knows the frame number is John Watson. I don't have any personal knowledge of the coventry climax or bmc a engines that were used in early Lotus Sevens - please contribute if you do! As many times as I've been to and through the simplesevens site, I never found that page. => Francis Bradley (1962) => Denis Coad (1963) => Vic Yachuk (1964) => Dennis Coad (1965) => Tom Spencer (1967) => => Jack Boxstrom (1970s~2005) => Carl Moore (2005~2007). Sole Australian car. I have great history on this car back to its original owner, so suspect this to be the original plate, but not sure there is really a way to tell for certain. @Mr Mark's new car post reminded me to finish this thread by adding engine number information. You can search All parts do not necessarily correspond to the illustrations. Lotus 47F. @eatonhong Welcome to USA7s! => Alan LeMay (1955) => Harry C. Hanford (1956) => Walter J. Okon (1989~2021), => Thomas Kikaldy (1963-1969) => ?, GB => => Steve Millward (~2010). => => Paul Matty, GB (1980s) => => Andrew Bradshaw, GB (2003). WebChassis #: 26-S2-34 This car was built to full racing specifications by Lotus Components Ltd. @croc - to my knowledge Progress and then Arch stamped their frames from the start. Better documented Again, nice find. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. These where road going cars with Cortina engines and Renault gearboxes to fill up the production batch. All of them were roadsters (Drop Head), and a hard top became available from 1963. Dark blue, later US, now (~2005) Japan. My series 1 No.475 was from 7 Tottenham Lane, Hornsey 29 April, 1959 which was a bit before the factory moved. Chassis 30/S2/xx were Lotus 30 series 2 cars. WebIt is with this engine that the Elan was homologated in the GT category in May 1963. While every reasonable effort is made to ensure the accuracy of this data, we are not responsible for any errors or omissions contained on these pages. Caterham and Lotus Seven Club Leadership Team Member. The Vehicle Chassis Number will be found stamped on a plate which is fixed to the left-hand side of the engine bulkhead. 21st Jan 2002 - Buying a used car? Here is my Lotus Components Plate. @SENCHenry - Do you know when Arch Motors started stamping its own identifying number on the chassis? The VIN number has a specific format that is globally recognized. Lotus Chassis Numbers Series 1: Series 2: Series 3: Series 4: Caterham Chassis Numbers Sorry, but the full text of this page is only available to users with a Arch Motors preceded their chassis number with the letters A/M. The car was listed in official record but was actually never built or delivered to Duchess Auto. Car 47/GT/52 never built. => Joe Leonard (1965) => Steve Dulio (1965) => Dick Caillouette (1967) => Wayne Linden (~1970s) => => Gordon and Nancy Gimbel (1995~2007) => Steve Diulio (2007). Raced in the UK during 1967 on most tracks including Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Snetterton, Mallory Park, then Australia. => Robert Shaw (1966) => Richard Dagiel, USA (1968) => Dieter Lewis (1971-1973?) The engine was changed to Climax 2.0 for hill climbs. Some have also said the originals were all inscribed, not stamped. Lotus by VIN number. ?? Do not forget to read about You can edit the name of your vehicle by clicking the pencil icon on the right. Nothing known about the chassis, perhaps the chassis number not used. Phone: (360) 330-7932. First two prototypes were built by Lotus at Edmonton, the rest (1003P-1020P) were built by Maximar, just like the first series. => David Whiteside, USA => Ray Anderson => David Cohen, CDN (about 1986). Some good information. Lotus car parts catalog for additional information if you're looking for parts to repair your vehicle. S1s and some S2s will have a metal plate with the number stamped on it welded to the frame just in front of the passenger seat. Lotus problems, recalls and complaints. Phil Scragg raced it in British hillclimbs. Destroyed by fire during first outing 1967. ? Several functions may not work. I would expect the frame number to be stamped on the frame near the master cylinder mount (assuming right hand drive). It appears to betoo dubious to pass the smell test. I think this is right on - the plate itself is only 1 of several important factors in determining "authenticity", and the frame is the next good place to discuss. Brian Hart 1800 ccm engine. Vehicle Chassis Number - The method of identifying a vehicle, whether Component-Built or Fully-Built, is by use of the Vehicle Chassis Number which is comprised of code numbers as shown below. Original Specification and lastly (6.) Ascertain the exact model for which parts are required and obtain the chassis and engine numbers. But it changed hands over 5 times before I found it in Southampton. The car was stolen. You can find his contact information at the Lotus Seven Registry website. Miles as Gold Team Team Lotus entry. for Lotus car parts and check the car's history. The second series was built by Bristol Aeroplane Plastics and since the early numbers (1250-1280) were overlapping, the EB (Elite Bristol) prefix was used to distinguish them. It is clearly a Lotus though. => Kurt Rost (1965) => Albert Pfuhl (1967) => => Heinz Schreiber (1980s~2005). Raced by J. Oliver as Gold Team Team Lotus entry. => Ted Bunce (1969) => G. Marshall => ?, Japan. To get started, I'll share a picture of my chassis plate. such as SB XXXX or LSBXXXX. The designations 'LEFT' and 'RIGHT' are to be understood as seen in the driving direction. 36/6400. Maybe Rainer can enlighten us, or anyone else with the Theme Lotus book? I may not be able to help much on the proper plate aspect. Find all the latest facts, figures and He and the (limited) factory logs are the best source - but it would be nice to gather as much general intel and knowledge as we can. here. It is used in good faith for informative purposes only. The Kent Ford blocks, from pre-crossflow to crossflow to twink had the engine number stamped just above the right hand side motor mount. McLean died in a fatal accident before he had a chance to race this car. It raced in France in early 1970s as a coupe. WebGenuine and own brand, car spares, parts and accessories for Lotus Lotus Exige V6 Chassis . A replacement car fabricated in California. To select the exact part number of the Part(s) required. Sign up for a new account in our community. Chassis and Early prototype loaned to John Lawry. AOCH001. Sold without engine. ", => John Lawry => {destroyed and rebuilt with 1019P}. recorded with the chassis number in Lotus records, so together they are very helpful for confirming identification. Silly and sad we have to go through this. Opening Times. Elan 'S3' Chassis No. Production Sports car series winner1973/74. WebThe Vehicle Chassis Number will be found stamped on a plate which is fixed to the left-hand side of the engine bulkhead. All Lotus Parts Numbers are being 'updated' to contain a maximum of nine (9) digits. => Paul Gresham (1970-1973) => => Richard Keyes & John Strange, USA (1978) => => Richard Keyes (1990s~2005). Driven by Jim Clark. Standard Hardware Part Numbers - All standard finish Bolts, Screws, Studs, Nuts and Washers carry Part Numbers in accordance with the code given on [#page9 page 9]. After shipping it from Southampton UK I had sandblasted the frame, reinforced the front of the frame following SCCA specs for the old D production class where Super 7s used to run, added a roll cage and then it sat for 20+ years while I was too busy with family and work to get much done or go racing again. There is a standard 17 digit code for VIN numbers and the 6th digit on a Caterham should be a letter . in your case an "S" would be correct. => Dick Hahn => Dave Tatom (1964) => Lew Florence (1965~1966) => Pete Nash => Bargelt => (1977~2007). Address and Contact Information. Website: For what it's worth, My July 1963 Car (SB1762) has a B stamped infront of the frame number on the master cylinder mount. Could I be dealing with an S4? Purchased by Clive Hunt for Team Elite 62 but probably never used. October 14, 2021 in General Sevens Discussion. Entered under Valvoline Racing Team banner in 1968. You currently have javascript disabled. Use our search to find it. Web'01234' = Chassis Number Part Numbers - All Part Numbers commence with the Vehicle Type Number which enables one to determine if the part is peculiar to the Europa or whether it was first used for some other Lotus 'road' vehicle, thus: - 46, 54 = First used on Europa 26, 36, 45, 500 = First used on Elan 50 = First used on Elan + 2 Chassis Plate and Chassis Number, (2.) To review the Contributing Member Benefits. WebIt is possible to get market price of new or used Lotus by VIN number. Part Required: Bonnet Lid. Good idea - and if enough input on this perhaps a subsequent thread on other ways to identify cars and bits by era and maker. So the 1962 in Lancaster , PA car certainly reminded me of where I was before a couple thousand hours of fabricating/fitting/building and then installing a 1500 pre-crossflow Ford built fairly close to Cosworth practice. Destroyed in a road accident. First customer car, spaceframe, alloy body, kit, various engines, First aero sports racer, usually Climax power, First single seater, initially F2, then F1, Fibreglass monocoque production GT, usually Climax powered, Eleven successor but even smaller, 1.5-2.2 Climax FPFs, Second single seater, still front engined, F2 and F1, 1100cc or 750cc Climax sports racer by Len Terry, no match for Lola Mk1, First mid-engined single seater, milestone car, 18 derived big-bore, first mid-engined sports racer, Definitive mid-engined sports racer giant killer, First production road-going convertible, twincam powered, Monocoque F2 (SCA) and Tasman (FPF) monoposto, Indy car built for BRM H16, ran with Ford V8, H16 F1 cars, monocoque using stressed engine, F2 monocoque, based on 35 tub with 41 wide track corners, Racing version of Europa, twincam, rear tube chassis, First ever Formula Ford based on type 22/31, Proposed Type 23 follow-up, not proceeded with, Improved Renault Europa with detachable chassis, Uprated 57 for F1, DFW, tested and shelved, Much modified Seven with full fibreglass body, Tube-frame Europa silhouette racer with new 2 litre, 4-wheel drive turbo Ford Indy cars, never competed, Proposed Tasman car, F5000s allowed so not built, F2/F3/FB/FF successful development of type 59, Formula 2 car monocoque with Lotus 907 prototype, Elite II luxury 4 seat GT, Lotus 907 engine, Formula 1 unsuccessful replacement for type 72, Formula 1 fully adjustable replacement for type 72/76, Formula 1 pioneer of modern ground effects, Formula 1 unsuccessful try at more ground effects, Guigiaro redesign 2.2l Turbo through current V-8, Normally aspirated Esprit continuation 2.2l, Formula 1 dual chassis test car, never raced, Formula 1 first carbon car forced to front as type 88 banned, Formula 1 dual chassis car which was banned, Formula 1 lightened type 87 achieved 1 win, (On 91 tubs) Formula 1 first active car, last Cosworth, Formula 1 unsuccessful first turbo Renault car, Formula 1 first Ducarouge car cobbled from 91 tubs, Formula 1 Renault turbo lacked power but good chassis, Indy car project abandoned due to CART rule change, Formula 1 Renault turbo vehicle for Senna's first win, Formula 1 gave Senna one win and eight poles with Renault, Formula 1 Honda, no success by Piquet or Nakajima, Front engined, front wheel drive convertible, Formula 1 with Honda gone used Judds, not great, an additional 3 racing Esprits for IMSA Supercar Championship, Back to basic Lotus design philosophy of simplicity and elegance, Racing Esprits for various GT1 and GT2 racing series. He was told the Eleven had replaced the Nine, so Charles ordered the new car instead. Buying a used car? The receipt is from Lotus Engineering Co, Ltd to R. G. Stern in Sydenham, London. When you choose to buy your Lotus Chassis parts from Lotus Parts Online, you ensure that your vehicle is going to run in its most optimal form. CBU replaced with chassis 1076. Lotus VIN decoder. This is the Lotus VIN decoder. Every Lotus car has a unique identifier code called a VIN. This number contains vital information about the car, such as its manufacturer, year of production, the plant it was produced in, type of engine, model and more. The chassis plate also says LOTUS Norwich, England - which is different to several of the chassis plates I've seen above in this thread. In 1966 ran by Mefco Racing (drivers Peter Mould, Martin Hone, Chris Ashmore, Peter Morris). This website is supported by the contributions of our members. Paperwork, (5.) The car had huge air-intakes on the engine cover, crashed at Silverstone 1968 by Calvert, rebuilt with 47/GT/78. read the 'QUANTITY' column using the model variant if applicable. WebShop Genuine Lotus Parts - Chassis. => ?, GB => Peter Ecury (1975) => Paul Kok (late 1970s) => ?, D, => Tony Mantle => Peter Ecury (1976~2013). 026 B 0030 if stocks available, if stocks are exhausted supply Part No. Raced by Julian Sutton, crashed in practice Villa Real. Raced by John Miles. We use cookies stored on our website, parts.lotuscars.com, for the purposes of retaining vehicle information to confirm product fitment, which qualifies as functional cookies only. Used to rebuilt 47/GT/47. The term 'optional' in the 'DESCRIPTION' column indicates that the respective parts will be supplied as available or in the case of repair sizes as requested. MK 1. Every car manufacturer is obliged to mark all its vehicles in this special format. It is possible to get market price of new or used And I agree with @eatonhongand @Croccompletely. => Jos van Altena (1965) => Gerry Ashmore (1965). WebLotus Europa site with a registry, photos, knowledgebase, calendar, documentation, literature, events, clubs, photos and more. => Jerry Grant (1962) => Jerry Hansen (1966) => Dick Kantrud (1967) => Dick Figenskau (1968) =>?, Las Vegas => => (1983~2007). Later S2s and S3s were built at Hethel/Norwich. Under ownership of Dick Caillouette, Bruce Campbell raced it in the Can-Am as the BVC (Mk I), which stood for Beverly Vickie Caillouette, Dick's wife. Some have said the original plates on S2s are the ones from Lotus Components, like this example from a 62 S2 that I found on an auction site. Established in the UK 1989 Telephone: +44(0) To search the entire Lotus part number database, do not select a model. As from January, 1970 vehicle identification will be in the following form: -, As there are sixteen different model types within our present production control, the following codes will be used for correct model identification: -. The number currently stands at more than 700 defendants in need of representation. Boxing Day 1966 winner. By continuing to use this website, you agree to our use of cookies to give you the best shopping experience. To help those who might consider buying an early Lotus Seven one day, I thought it might be useful to gather information on the topic here. Raced by J. This number contains vital information about the car, such as its manufacturer, year of production, the plant it was produced in, type of engine, model and more. Mine has the rack in the proper place of course but apparently the first few 7s had a box. WebThe second series was built by Bristol Aeroplane Plastics and since the early numbers (1250-1280) were overlapping, the EB (Elite Bristol) prefix was used to distinguish them. Spaceframe Chassis: +2. Whether your Lotus is destined for the racetrack or the open road, you can count on Lotus Parts Online to provide the absolute highest quality Chassis parts for your Lotus. probably better to identify a real 7 by noting details on the spaceframe and where the steering rack attaches. I think there might be a point that he actually only had one 20 - until proven otherwise, of course. I started with the plate mainly because it is the most obvious and most discussed, and also easiest to replicate - so my goal there was to see if we could establish any obvious parameters that might help someone establish that a plate may be real or replacement (or fake). Dates and production numbers are estimates and are likely to be wrong. Also the Irish results do not give any more informations. In the 1980s a new bodywork was created from the original drawings. SENC, read the 'DESCRIPTION' column for correct order identification. Supply Part No. Anyone interested is welcome to visit, like I did with Larry, very early in my project to be sure all was right. We are still working on several areas of the Wiki. That is a good find, @TheDingo8MyBaby, thanks! BB9. Arch also stamp the chassis with a seperate and different number around the offside rollbar mounting, showing I recall date of manufacture and another coded reference which means something to Caterham and Arch! I don't think the auction should be pulled. I believe that the best way to preserve the integrity of these cars is to keep the frame number private so John can use it as verification. A total guess, but the transition may be marked by the change in stamping location (frame at base of passenger seat to frame at master cylinders). Body destroyed by fire, Hofstetter, Brasil. I agree. Several sources indicate the frame number is located in 1 of 2 places in S1-S3 Lotus. Great start on a very interesting topic. WebTelephone. => Rolf Wurst, D (3/12/19763/9/1989) => Alan Petersen, DK. But unlike in Multnomah, by and large those courts havent resorted to Part Required: Speedometer k.p.h. Series 2 Version numbers were 26-52-1 to 26-52-43. => Kaj Bjerke="Mr. Muzak" (1968) => Lars Wramell => Bertil Carlson (~2014). Part Numbers - All Part Numbers commence with the Vehicle Type Number which enables one to determine if the part is peculiar to the Europa or whether it was first used for some other Lotus 'road' vehicle, thus: -, 46, 54 = First used on Europa 26, 36, 45, 500 = First used on Elan 50 = First used on Elan 2. But I did collect various parts since it originally was built with a 1300 Alfa twincam motor and I have all the original Lotus receipts from 1959 and much more on MOT, owner(s) history etc. The full chassis number should be located where Alex says, under the pedal box cover. At some point (anyone know when? WebWe also offer a complete chassis change service for any Lotus model. Refer to Pictorial Index Plate and select Section(s) for which Part(s) are required. Raced with 750 cc engine in Le Mans 1961 in a Sports category. Rempel crashed it and converted into a Formula 5000 car. He seemed to believe the plate was legit. It seems to me the seller is being pretty open about what he does and does not know about the car. Crashed and replaced/rebuilt with 1016P body. They are provided merely as a guide. => Doug Macarthur, AUS (1967) => John Trowell, AUS (1969) => David Piele, AUS (1970) => Ian Blake and Chris Roberts, AUS (1973) => Peter Hopwood (1975) => Paul Whitmarsh, AUS (1982) => John Pridgeon (1984)=> Andrew Murray, AUS (2009). 360-736-9497. You may find it useful to refine your search by selecting a part section. All information contained in this website belongs to it's original author. Address: 412 N Tower Ave suite a, Centralia, WA 98531. Lotus car has a unique identifier code called a VIN. The Lotus Seven Registry website suggests the numbers could be stamped, scratched, or etched - but I've heard otherwise, too. => Don Fong (1964) => Charlie Kolb (1966) => Orly Thornsjo (1967~1968) => => ?, Chicago (1985) => Dave Helms (2006). Do not => Victoria HS => Charles Smith-Maxwell (1977) => Higgins brothers (1985) => Baron Otto Reedtz-Thott (1996~2007), => Mike Pendleton (1963) => George Pitt (1964) => Entwistle => Walker => Harry OBrien (1966) => Scott Sperka. 855-782-4070. CHASSIS #This is the number given to the car by Lotus and is to be found stamped, scratched or etched on the small aluminium plate riveted near the bulkhead of the car in the engine bay FRAME #This is the number given by the sub-contractor who made the mild steel chassis frame. Driven by John Markey in the early 1970s. (1958) => Les Gaylord (1961-1980) => => Bob Engberg (~2006), => Richard Austin, GB (1997~1998) => Robert Brooks, GB (2001~2006). => E. Buchholz => G. Guellert => Bill Friend. I'll post up some frame pictures and observations later, but want to reiterate what someone has already said in one thread or another here - that we are fortunate that there is a Lotus 7 Registry and a real expert there in John Watson who can help owners evaluate what they have (or are considering buying). Thanks for the help. BOCH002. Rebuilt using chassis 1250. Paul Fitzwarryne, the last owner, road registed the car in Australia. Posted the couple of pictures I had available with me. Also, am I right in assuming that the frame number and chassis numbershouldmatch? Lotus. It's easy! Together 21 Series 1 cars were built in 1964. => Tom Terrell (1963) => Doug Thiem (1963) => ? The car apparently destroyed in an accident at the 1965 Angolan GP at Luanda. There is a title so that legitimizes its existence as a vehicle but does not provide any legitimacy to it being a genuine Lotus 7. The first version of the Elan (called Type 26 S1) was produced in around 900 units from 1962 to 1964. Raced by Trevor Taylor and David Preston. Road registered in Australia. 1997-2014 WSRP My father has what I presume to be either an S2 or S3. Does anyone know what was the last numbered Lotus S4 was? General Early Lotus Seven identification - plates, chassis numbers, frame numbers, and engine numbers By SENC, October 14, 2021 in General Sevens C026 B 0030 (with power bulge). I look forward to seeing more inputs on this topic as 7s of all ages are great fun in many ways. Per Lotus build sheet 'sold' to Duchess Auto but in fact it was never delivered or left the UK. Won Austrialian Sports Car Championship in 1961 (perhaps meant GT championship in 1960). Every buyer must check If someone has a picture of one they can add, that would be helpful. The S2 Denotes it to a Series 2 version of the 26R. 2295.00. Tue - 6:00am - 4:00pm. It was previously plated in the UK with the last digit G, signifying 1969. Note: Cars up to and including the Eleven are referred to as Mark, thereafter Type. Numbers 47/GT/3147/GT/46 not used. Raced by Jim Clark in 1964 then destroyed by Tony Hegbourne in Brands Hatach in July. Lotus vehicle history report may contain the following information: title problems, prior damages, unsafe salvage rebuilds, odometer mileage, theft, past sales. Elan 'S4' Chassis No. If a 'quantity per model' variance occurs the quantity will be indicated in the respective model or version. The comments of experienced Lotus people taught him otherwise, which is one thing I really like about BAT auctions. Perhaps enough information can be gathered in 1 place to at least assist in discernment. Thank you for your patience. Early Lotus Seven identification - plates, chassis numbers, frame numbers, and engine numbers, https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-lotus-seven-4/, http://www.simplesevens.org/anglocanadian/angloParts.htm. All I can remember are the body colours which, in Armstrong's case was maroon. rebuild ( like mine when I got it from an ex-racer). Lotus Europa Registry Of Unknown Chassis I've added a couple pictures of these later stampings, and a drawing with the locations circled. WebPart Numbers - All Part Numbers commence with the Vehicle Type Number which enables one to determine if the part is peculiar to the Europa or whether it was first used for some Raced by Jim Clark Brands Hatch 1958 And both Jim Clark and Ian Scott-Watson 1958 & 1959. Gill's car was immaculately turned out in powder blue. Later imported to the United States by Mr. Dan Rakawoitz. Sold without engine. Kikaldy then removed the special bodywork. => Peter Sadler (1966) => => Brian Cocks (1980). Top. Driven by Ray Parsons. Remains used to build 30/L/17. This is the Lotus VIN decoder. => Peter Lumsden => {destroyed and rebuilt with 1016P}. (1990s), => Dave Wolin (1965) => Peter Regna (1966~2005), INT: "For example, the sale of Eleven #156 to Charles Cunningham no relation to Briggs occurred after Charles walked into Pompeos showroom early in 1956 intent to buy a Mk. Damaged during a test drive by motor journalist M. Bowler, but is now (~2005) being rebuilt by John Bolding. I am trying to locate the VIN and in the process had a look at the chassis plate, which peculiarly states the Unit No without any letters - and this number is larger than 2649 (which is the upper # for S3's I'm told). Has anyone seen or found anything definitive in this regard? Many racing types had appendages to indicate different uses, they are not all listed. I looked at the number plate on the crossmember at the brake/clutch assembly mounting area but am not an expert on that (series 1 originally had pedals hinged from a bottom crossmember). Last available factory chassis, replacement of the original 953. => Graham Warner (1959 => {destroyed 1962}. ? Theo Kinsbergen became Dutch national sportscar champion with the car. I assume it came on in the 1960s when replacement chassis started being needed after race day accidents? The 1500 non-crossflow has the correct numbers ( 6015 on the block) just like mine ( so a mid 1960s type with the good 5 main bearing set-up). Relate the Plate Reference Number to the Plate Reference Number of the Parts List text. => John Upton (1982) =>=> Naoki Baba, J (~2016). ?US, ex Ray Bisordi, GLTL colours, A. Bollinger. If Reg Armstrong did acquire two Lotus 20s rather than one, the chances are that the second car was raced in Ireland by Edmund Gill who, like Armstron,g was successful on two wheels before switching to four !I'm sure Eddie Fitzgerald will know more. Used in South Africe, after that replaced by 30/L/20 while this chassis was presumably destroyed. Every => Bev Spencer (1963) => Stan Peterson (1963~1964) => => Allen Taylor (1967) => Frank Crane => Lee Guitier => Don Orosco, USA (1979) => Chris Drake, GB (1980) => Rosso Bianco Museum (1980) => Olav Glasius, NL (2006~2007), => Norm Namerow, CDN (1963) => Peter Lerch (late 1964) => Normand Verreault => John Maycock (1980) => Brad Krause (~1996) => => Frank Jellenik (2004~2005) => John Delane (2005~2006) => Tom Claridge (2007). It was road registred, now (~2005) under restoration with Lucas FI, Sweden. I don't know exactly when Arch started making the frames for the Seven, but at some point in the S2 range. Raced by Dan Gurney in 1960-62, by Daigh and Clark in 1963 and by Al Unser, Bobby Unser in 1964 (already fitted with Chevrolet engine). Parts from 30/L/1 used to build this car. Study the illustration and select Plate Reference Number(s). Just for fun, this week I visited the dealer who has the 1962 car completely apart (as accurately shown in the video). I've read somewhere (but can't find it now) that early on (for Elites and Elans, at least), the plates were attached to the body at the startand so couldn't be stamped without damaging the fiberglass, but that the practice later changed to stamping them before afixing to the body. Under Peter Hopwood ownership extensive and famous race period for car. First series 1021-1280 built by Maximar Boat Builders. When reading the text figure numbers will be shown against the illustrated side or hand. Well said! check the 'CHANGE POINT' column for any further information relating to the series or model type. Later Angola, H.Areias, Sweden. Driven by Trevor Taylor and Peter Sadler, who crashed it in testing. As from January, 1970 vehicle identification will be in the And, for reference in case the BAT auction pics are one day unavailable, the picture of the plate for the vehicle listed. => Karl Hurler, D => Horst Floth, D => Kurt Lotterschmidt, D (~1971) => Karl Sebbach, D (1972), => Bill Overhauser (1968) => Jack Rosenhoff (1968) => Bob Bentler (1969~2000) => Ed Brannon (2000) => Nick Smith (~2006) => R. David Jones (06/2010), => Gustaf Dieden (1966) => Hans Wngstre (1967) => => Olle Bergqvist (~2009), => Jean-Claude Ehinger (1966) => Rene Vonaesch. Frame Number, (3.) recheck the part number(s) selected, repeating instructions 3 to 5c inclusive. Fitted with Ferrari V12 3.0 engine in 1963. The site dedicated to sportscar race results and chassis numbers histories is under construction. I'm wondering if or when Bring a Trailer will step in and pull the S2 auction. It is only intended for discussion and discourse about identification of early Sevens as it relates to their numbers and chassis plates. B. Lampreia, destroyed by fire in 1969. Several lap records including Sandown and Phillip Island. David, it would be chassis 20-J-892, unfortunately I do not have the frame nr. 2395.00. If required, 'CHANGE POINTS', (i.e. Count Zanoli raced it later in Italian Hillclimb Championship. All rights reserved. Much easier to get it corrected now rather than later. GB, yellow, J. Calvert, US ( Tony Griffith ) 1969-1982, road use, now UK? I had picked up a box with steering shaft attached somewhere years ago ( and various other bits) but I do not recall why. Also collection and deliver of your car available by our own transport. 1969 West Australian Sportscar lap record. Later fitted with Buick 3.5. Which is one thing I really like about BAT auctions still working on several areas of the books... 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